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Where can I find TSYNC1_1 and a Time Sync location to use it with.

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Phil Bernstein (bernstei@email.ncsc.navy.mil)


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Has anybody found an accurate time host that works with TSYNC1_1.  I have 
tried the Naval Observatory (tycho.usno.navy.mil) but I get an error. 

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Phil Bernstein (bernstei@email.ncsc.navy.mil)


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Hello,

I am trying to write a program using winsock to access netware.
It has to send a general broadcast out on the lan and then receive
multiple packets back which are not general broadcasts. 

I can send the general broadcasts but I am having trouble receiving
the returned packets (they are sent on the lan). 

Question, is there a manual or any type of document exist for IPX-WINSOCK,
and if so could you tell me now to get it.

Or the question could be what am I doing wrong???.


With hope

Martin.
Development.
Network Designers Ltd.
Not an official spokesperson.

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Could somone mail me some information on how to get 
Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
something you have to order from novell?

   - Ted Larson
     HP Corporate Network Services
     Client/Server Tools Group
     ted@corp.hp.com
     
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> >Could somone mail me some information on how to get
> >Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
> >something you have to order from novell?
> >

> 
> 
> Its comes with Windows/NT when NWLink is installed.
> 
> 

   Is there any way to get it without using/obtaining Windows/NT??
   What if I want to develop a winsock app which runs under
   Windows 3.1 with Novell???
   
       - Ted Larson
         HP Corporate Network Services
         Client/Server Tools Group
         ted@corp.hp.com
         
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>> >Could somone mail me some information on how to get
>> >Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
>> >something you have to order from novell?
>> >
>
>>
>>
>> Its comes with Windows/NT when NWLink is installed.
>>
>>
>
>   Is there any way to get it without using/obtaining Windows/NT??
>   What if I want to develop a winsock app which runs under
>   Windows 3.1 with Novell???
>
>       - Ted Larson
>         HP Corporate Network Services
>         Client/Server Tools Group
>         ted@corp.hp.com
>
The Winsock DLLs with windows NT work only with the Windows NT stack, NOT
with Novell's stacks for DOS or Windows 3.1, however, novell does have a
winsock.dll that goes with LanWorkplace for DOS (and LanWorkplace for
Windows, although this is really the same product.)  At one point you
could get it via FTP from novell, but I don't know where, or even if it
is still available.

chdrake@mail.uams.edu
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From: martin@ndl.co.uk (Martin J. Norman)
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Subject: Re: winsock for novell
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>> >Could somone mail me some information on how to get
>> >Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
>> >something you have to order from novell?
>> >
>
>>
>>
>> Its comes with Windows/NT when NWLink is installed.
>>
>>
>
>   Is there any way to get it without using/obtaining Windows/NT??
>   What if I want to develop a winsock app which runs under
>   Windows 3.1 with Novell???
>
>       - Ted Larson
>         HP Corporate Network Services
>         Client/Server Tools Group
>         ted@corp.hp.com
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>

Not that I am aware of, but Microsoft way know for sure.

Microsoft seem not to want to comment to much on the subject, when I
 ask microsoft UK about it they say don't know.

I have also noticed that the NWLink samples that come with the 
C 7.0 NT-SDK do not appear in the samples with VC++ for NT.

If some one from Microsoft reads this mail try making a comment!!
You could also try to provide documentation both for users and developers!!


Martin Norman
Network Designers Ltd.
Systems Development Group.
martin@ndl.co.uk



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> > >Could somone mail me some information on how to get
> > >Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
> > >something you have to order from novell?
> > 
> > Its comes with Windows/NT when NWLink is installed.
> 
>    Is there any way to get it without using/obtaining Windows/NT??
>    What if I want to develop a winsock app which runs under
>    Windows 3.1 with Novell???

What are you looking for?  A WinSock for Novell's version of TCP/IP
or a WinSock for IPX/SPX?

For Windows 3.1, I believe you can get a WinSock for Novell's TCP/IP
from their bboard or from CompuServe.  JSB is supposedly working on a
version of WinSock for IPX/SPX, but it isn't available yet.

moo
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> >Could somone mail me some information on how to get
> >Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
> >something you have to order from novell?
> >

>
>
> Its comes with Windows/NT when NWLink is installed.
>
>


You can also get it from Novell with their NetWare Client for
DOS/Windows v1.1.  It comes with the same TCP/IP and winsock.dll
that ships with their LAN WorkPlace for DOS product.

The NetWare Client for DOS/Windows v1.1 is $99.00 for a site license
and can be purchased directly from Novell.  Refer to
part #00662644013411 when ordering.


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 SPRY, Inc.                          Phone: (206) 442-8250
 316 Occidental Avenue South         FAX:   (206) 447-9008
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>To: richard@spry.com
>From: martin@ndl.co.uk (Martin J Norman)
>Subject: Re: Winsock for Novell...
>
>>
>>> >Could somone mail me some information on how to get
>>> >Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
>>> >something you have to order from novell?
>>> >
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Its comes with Windows/NT when NWLink is installed.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>You can also get it from Novell with their NetWare Client for
>>DOS/Windows v1.1.  It comes with the same TCP/IP and winsock.dll
>>that ships with their LAN WorkPlace for DOS product.
>>
>>The NetWare Client for DOS/Windows v1.1 is $99.00 for a site license
>>and can be purchased directly from Novell.  Refer to
>>part #00662644013411 when ordering.
>>
>>
>> ::::::::::::::::::::<<< NETWORKING THE DESKTOP >>>::::::::::::::::::::
>> Richard Ting
>> Product Manager                     Internet: richard@spry.com
>> SPRY, Inc.                          Phone: (206) 442-8250
>> 316 Occidental Avenue South         FAX:   (206) 447-9008
>> Seattle, WA  98104
>> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>>

This does seem to be draging on, sorry.

Are you saying that the novell winsock for DOS provides a programming link 
to IPX/SPX, because that is what the winsock under NT offers.


Martin.
Systems Development.
Network Designers Ltd.
Not an official spokesperson.

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From: martin@ndl.co.uk (Martin J Norman)
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>
>> >Could somone mail me some information on how to get
>> >Winsock 1.1 DLL for Novell Netware.  Is it free? or
>> >something you have to order from novell?
>> >
>
>>
>>
>> Its comes with Windows/NT when NWLink is installed.
>>
>>
>
>
>You can also get it from Novell with their NetWare Client for
>DOS/Windows v1.1.  It comes with the same TCP/IP and winsock.dll
>that ships with their LAN WorkPlace for DOS product.
>
>The NetWare Client for DOS/Windows v1.1 is $99.00 for a site license
>and can be purchased directly from Novell.  Refer to
>part #00662644013411 when ordering.
>
>
> ::::::::::::::::::::<<< NETWORKING THE DESKTOP >>>::::::::::::::::::::
> Richard Ting
> Product Manager                     Internet: richard@spry.com
> SPRY, Inc.                          Phone: (206) 442-8250
> 316 Occidental Avenue South         FAX:   (206) 447-9008
> Seattle, WA  98104
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
>
>
>
>
>

Martin.
Systems Development.
Network Designers Ltd.
Not an official spokesperson.

