Editor's note: These minutes have not been edited. Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:26:11 +0200 From: "Erik Huizer (SURFnet BV)" ------------------------ Applications Area Report ------------------------ Area Summary Reported by John Klensin/MCI and Erik Huizer/SURFnet This is a short report on the status of the Applications Area as of the conclusion of the Toronto IETF meeting, July 1994. The Applications Area current contains the following working groups: Access/Synchronization of the Internet Directories (asid) Chair(s): Tim Howes Electronic Data Interchange (edi) Chair(s): Dave Crocker Internet Message Access Protocol (imap) Chair(s): Terry Gray Mail Extensions (mailext) Chair(s): C. Allan Cargille MHS-DS (mhsds) Chair(s): Kevin Jordan Harald Alvestrand Notifications and Acknowledgements Requirements (notary) Chair(s): Harald Alvestrand Ned Freed OSI Directory Services (osids) Chair(s): Steve Kille TELNET (telnet) Chair(s): Steve Alexander Internet White Pages Requirements (whip) Chair(s): Tony Genovese In addition, the Applications Area and the User Services Area jointly oversee the following working groups: - Integrated Directory Services (IDS) - Integration of Internet Information Resources (IIIR) - Networked Information Retrieval (NIR) - Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) - Whois and Network Information Lookup Service (WNILS) The status of these groups is described in the User Services Area Report. The Telnet TN3270 Extensions (tn3270e) and X.400 Operations (x400ops) working groups were concluded since the last area report. A brief description of their status appears below. During the Toronto IETF, the Applications Area also sponsored the following BOF sessions. These BOFs are expected to evolve into working groups. - Support of Firewalls by applications (SOFA) - Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) - Quality of information Services (Quis) - --------------------------------------- Access/Synchronization of the Internet Directories (asid) The ASID WG had its first meeting as an official working group. Mark Kosters gave an information presentation on the RWhois protocol, which may be brought into the IETF in the future. Christian Huitema gave a summary of progress on the SOLO protocol since the last IETF, including some centroid experience (the * response) that prompted Chris Weider to volunteer to work on the centroid paper to make it more general and incorporate the SOLO experience. Joan Gargano gave a summary of the last WNILS meeting. WHOIS++ work will continue in the ASID group now that the WHOIS++ documents are on their way to RFC status. The first additional WHOIS++ work item, a draft describing how to use the mesh, was described by Chris and Patrick. The CLDAP draft was approved by the group, after consensus was reached on the remaining issue (authentication). It will now be submitted to the ADs for approval on the standards track. Various problems with the LDAP and related drafts, discovered as a result of implementation experience, were discussed. All issues are believed to be resolved, and Steve Kille and Tim Howes took action items to produce new drafts of the RFCs within a month's time. Finally, Glenn Mansfield gave a presentation on some X.500 schema publishing work he has been doing. The schema working group also took a related action to start taking schema requests immediately, and have things up and working in a month. - --------------------------------------- Electronic Data Interchange (edi) The EDI working group held two meetings in Toronto. The first reviewed work to-date on the specification for encapsulating EDI within MIME objects. In preparation for starting a paper on the use of EDI through the Internet, we discussed various requirements and concerns among the participants. This surfaced a desire for a separate discussion paper concerning use of Mime. Walt Houser, US. Department of Veteran Affairs gave a brief presentation about the US Electronic Commerce Acquisition Team effort. On the second day, we began to formulate the structure of the usage document and made writing assignment. First drafts are due in August. - --------------------------------------- Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) IMAP's major objective for this meeting was to go over review comments on IMAP4 draft -03 and -04, in preparation for submitting the spec as a Proposed Standard. The objective was achieved; a small number of wording additions and changes resulted. The question of what the autologout timer minimum value should be was also discussed. A separate IMAP4 extension proposal may be forthcoming to define a way for the client to tell the server what it wants, but the base document was left unchanged. A new draft incorporating the wording changes discussed will be posted within a few days. A Last Call for the base spec and two related documents is expected shortly thereafter. - --------------------------------------- Mail Extensions (mailext) This new working group reviewed and recommended action on proposals for SMTP command pipelining, SMTP data "chunking" and binary data streams, a 521 error code for SMTP, and language labelling in MIME (see minutes for description). Future work for this WG will include a review of proposals to clarify existing mail documents and the relationship among them. - --------------------------------------- MHS Directory Services (mhsds) MHS-DS identified a number of minor editorial changes to be made in the five documents on which it is currently working. All five documents will be progressed onto the RFC track by September 2. The documents are: Use of the Directory to support mapping between X.400 and RFC822 Addresses -- to be progressed as Experimental Protocol Representing the O/R Address hierarchy in the Directory Information Tree -- to be progressed as Proposed Standard Representing Tables and Subtrees in the Directory -- to be progressed as Proposed Standard MHS use of Directory to support MHS Routing -- to be progressed as Proposed Standard Introducing Project Long Bud -- to be progressed as Informational In addition, the working group reported the status of its pilot project, Project Long Bud, and identified some key steps which need to be taken to advance the project further. Presently, two of the proposed four core DSA's are in operation and are fully replicating the top levels of the Open Community Routing Tree. The DIT is configured such that the two DSA's act as hot backups for each other. US, GB, and BE information is being exchanged, and DE is expressing interest. We plan to add the remaining two core DSA's in the next couple of months, and we will actively pursue getting more countries online. - --------------------------------------- Notifications and Acknowledgements Requirements (NOTARY) NOTARY reached near closure on the format of notifications. At the meeting, the issue of error codes was raised; there is a need for an error code that provides a more precise description than the current SMTP error code set that the current proposal uses. Decisions: - - Advance the current draft ASAP, in order to inform the rest of the world that most of the work is stable. - - Try to make a decision on what kind of error codes to use at or before the San Diego IETF NOTARY also embraced an effort to describe vacation notices, and recommended setting up a new WG to handle receipt notifications. - --------------------------------------- OSI Directory Services (osids) OSI-DS did not meet in Toronto. The group finished its last Internet Draft on Schema management and will close down in the coming month. - --------------------------------------- Telnet (TELNET) The Telnet WG has completed all of its major work and will be concluded before the next IETF. There are several proposals around for enhanced security (privacy, authentication, or both) that involve Telnet; these proposals will be proceeded in a new working group (to be created) that will be tightly focused on Telnet Security. That WG will probably be managed in the Operational Requirements or Security areas, with Applications review. - --------------------------------------- Internet White Pages Requirements (WHIP) The WG met to discuss four open issues: 1. Access Control 2. Conceptual Model 3. Synchronization 4. New Information Objects There were no major contentions. Each Item produced new input for the Draft RFC. Under Access Control it was generally excepted that the IWPS will be an Anonymous/Public service without write/modify access. The Conceptual model will be expanded and rewritten to clear up and more precisely represent the model. In particular the Meta Data model used with the URN to URC mapping/use. Synchronization of the different WPS Databases is not going to be an issue this WG will work on. We will focus on Data Integrity which very loosely touches this topic. We will look at adding Security Certificates as a possible new Information Object. It was felt that the WPS requirements from rfc1588, rfc1107 should be condensed as another document that this group should write. As work progresses on the Meta data representation of WPS, Joan Gargano volunteered to write a short RFC to specify the use of the Priority/Preference attributes associated with the WP Server URLs. - --------------------------------------- Telnet TN3270 Enhancements (TN3270E) As expected, the Telnet TN3270 Enhancements working group completed its work and was concluded before the Toronto IETF. The working group's final products were - --------------------------------------- X.400 Operations (X400OPS) As expected, the X.400 Operations working group completed its work and was concluded before the Toronto IETF after producing its final working drafts as RFCs. - --------------------------------------- Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) At the 30th IETF in Toronto, on 26 July 1994, a BOF was held on the formation of a HyperText Markup Language (HTML) working group. This BOF followed as a result of discussions at the WWW94 workshop. Features of HTML were identified as belonging to various levels. Each level requiring WG all features of a 'lower' level to be implemented. The creation of WG was proposed to formaly describe the various levels, starting with level 0 dealing with existing current practice. As a by-product of the HTML BOF, a group is being organized to examine the issues associated with using full SGML over MIME. This group is expected to work cooperatively with SGML/Open and is likely to evolve into either a BOF or a WG by the December IETF meeting. - --------------------------------------- Quality of information Services (Quis) This BOF focused on Quality of information services as perceived by users. It did NOT discuss Quality of the Information itself. Focus is on bad links, missing links, wrong links and such. A discussion on limiting the scope ensued and resulted in an acceptably strict problem definition which will be used as the basis for a charter to form a WG on this subject. - ---------------------------------------