From: Jef Knoors (jknoors@zonnet.nl)
Date: Thu Jun 22 2000 - 15:02:29 CEST
I fall for that argument,
I'll try vim for a while on a windoze PC, and look what it needs for
installing it in muLinux.
After a few weeks I'll know if it's any good.
Tanks for sharing you experience.
Jef
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerhard Thimm <gthimm@zbw.ch>
To: <mulinux@sunsite.auc.dk>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: vi ? (was: MC -e)
>
>
> Jef Knoors schrieb:
> >
> > Well, you're right about learning to use vi, I should have asked for an
> > editor wich would use the same functionkey's I'm already used to. I.o.w
> > using an editor _without_ learning the next set of commands. Sinds I use
> > DOS/Windoze/Linux ...
>
> >... I don't want to reprogramm my memory, but my computerprogramms.
>
> Well, that's exactly the point!
>
> Sorry, I can not resist to write the following:
> The Point why I learnd vi (program my memory a last time). This is one
> of my best investments. As it seems you work with PC-based systems which
> always have function-keys, why not use it. I never use function-keys,
> because a lot of the systems i worked and work have no function-keys
> (Terminals, industrial Systems, ...). But in most cases you find a vi
> for this systems. And btw, it is great fun to _vi_ a file on a strange
> machine you logged in via a palm-organizer :-)
>
> Gerhard
>
> BTW: The vi tutorial KHZ mentions earlier will take you an hour and
> after two days you can't believe that you not used vi before.
>
> BTW2: A friend of mine often use this sentence:" Never discuss sex,
> religion and editors". And so I fall back to silence.
>
> > Jef
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer <khz@stardivision.de>
> > To: <mulinux@sunsite.auc.dk>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:21 AM
> > Subject: vi ? (was: MC -e)
> >
> > On 22.06.00, 09:39:10, Jef Knoors wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone of you know if there's a editor like MC \e
> > > with out the filemanager.
> > > Just a smal binary to put on my floppy.
> > > I searched for hours, but there are so many editors,
> > > most of them are either very big or difficult to use.
> >
> > Yes, there IS such an editor, it's name (I am not kidding) is: vi
> >
> > Why that???
> >
> > Didn't you ask for an editor that is _not_ 'difficult to use'.
> >
> > Ok, at the very first moment one might think that I am kidding
> > or trying to start another flame-war but please take the time
> > to think about it, maybe this arguments can convince you:
> >
> > - vi is not intuitive
> >
> > - therefor many people think it is 'difficult to use'.
> >
> > Is this true?
> > Is it 'difficult to use'?
> >
> > In my opinion it depends on _if_ you take the time
> > to _learn_ using it.
> >
> > Oh, no, what a stupid argument! ;-)
> >
> > Sure?
> >
> > So what about the fact that a dear muLinux user made a VERY good
> > tutorial that teaches you how to use the vi step by step?
> >
> > If one takes the time to do this (indeed not very long) course
> > she or he will notice that
> >
> > a) LEARNING the vi with this course is EASY
> >
> > b) USING the vi when having finished the course is EASY
> >
> > So where IS the great tutorial?
> >
> > As mentioned of the muLinux homepage (see 'WEB PAGES') the
> >
> > VI MU-MAN
> > is here: uk http://www.navigare.org/vi-muman.uk
> > it http://www.navigare.org/vi-muman.it
> > de http://www.navigare.org/vi-muman.de
> >
> > Have a lot of Fun! :)
> >
> > Karl-Heinz
> > --
> >
> > "Why do we have to hide from the police, Daddy?" Dave Fischer
> > "Because we use vi, son. They use emacs." 1995/06/19
> >
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